Origins of Obama's new campaign slogan 'Forward'

Barack Obama has moved on from his 2008 'hope and change' campaign with the message that there is still more work to do
Motto has strong similarities to MSNBC's slogan: 'Lean Forward'
Critics also point to Chinese Communist leader Mao's Great Leap Forward
Announcement comes before the President's re-election rallies this weekend

Barack Obama did himself no favours today unveiling a new campaign slogan that critics say has unfortunate similarities to ones used by Chairman Mao and other Communists.




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Forward may refer to:

Forward (surname)
Relative direction, where forward is the opposite of backward

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1 Physics
2 Sports
3 Literature
4 Music
5 Politics
6 Places
7 Publications
8 Other
9 See also

Physics

Forward pseudorapidity region in particle accelerator
Forward converter, a DC-DC converter circuit

Sports

Forward (association football)
Forward (basketball), including
Point forward
Power forward (basketball)
Small forward
Forward (ice hockey)
Power forward (ice hockey)
In rugby football:
Forwards (rugby league), in rugby league football
Forwards (rugby union), in rugby union football

Literature

Forward!, a collection of short stories by Gordon R. Dickson
Forward Poetry Prize

Music

"Pow (Forward Riddim)", a single released by UK grime act Lethal B in 2004
Forward (Ayla Brown album), an album recorded by American Idol semi-finalist Ayla Brown
Forward (Turn album), an album recorded by Meath-based Indie Rock band Turn
Forward (The Abyssinians album), a 1982 album by The Abyssinians
Naprej, zastava slave (Forward, the Flag of Glory), the former Slovene anthem, originally titled Naprej (Forward!)

Politics

Forward (generic name of socialist publications)
Forward (Greenland), a social democratic political party in Greenland
Kadima (Hebrew for forward), an Israeli political party
Socialist league VPERED, a Russian political party
Forward (Obama-Biden Campaign Slogan)

Places

United States

Forward, Wisconsin
Forward Township, Allegheny County, Pennsylvania
Forward Township, Butler County, Pennsylvania

Publications

Avante!, publication of the Portuguese Communist Party
Avanti!, publication of the Italian Socialist Party
Eteenpäin, Finnish-language newspaper in the United States
Forverts/The Forward, a Jewish-American, Yiddish/English newspaper from New York
Új Előre ('New Forward'), a Hungarian-language newspaper in the United States
Voorwaarts!, publication of the Communist Youth Movement (Netherlands)
Vorwärts, publication of the Social Democratic Party of Germany
Vorwärts!, published from Paris in 1844
Forward Magazine, a Syrian English-language newsmagazine

Other

Email forwarding, a mechanism by which a mail server sends the emails of one of its users to another address.
Isuzu Forward, trucks made by Isuzu
Foundation for Women's Health, Research and Development (FORWARD), British charity helping women with female genital mutilation
Forward contract, an agreement to buy or sell an asset at a pre-agreed future point (Finance)
Forward (aircraft), front part of an aircraft, space craft, or ship

See also

Foreword (disambiguation)

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First issue of Vorwärts, October 1, 1876

The name Forward carries a special meaning in socialist political terminology. It has been frequently used as a name for socialist, communist and other leftwing newspapers and publications[1][2], denoting an urge for progress.[3] Vorwärts! (German for 'Forward', with an exclamation point as part of the name) was a revolutionary German emigré publication issued in Paris in the mid-1840s. Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels were amongst the contributors to the magazine. Whilst the publication was short-lived, it had a lasting impact and served as an inspiration for later socialist press outlets. A second Vorwärts (without exclamation point) was founded in 1876, being an organ of the Social Democratic Party of Germany and with Wilhelm Liebknecht as its first editor.[4] In the years before the First World War, the term 'vorwärts' was almost monopolized in German political discourse by the Social Democrats, and the name was used for various publications and organizations.[5]

The German Vorwärts inspired socialists around the world.[6] The Yiddish daily Forverts, founded in New York in 1897, was named after the German publications (which were well-known amongst Jewish radical circles at the time). Rather than using the Yiddish word faroys, a transliteration of the German name was used.[4] Another prominent example has been Vpered (Russian language for 'Forward'), the publication that Lenin started after having resigned from the Iskra editorial board in 1905 after a clash with Georgi Plekhanov and the Mensheviks.[1] The name did however fall out of fashion in Russia after the October Revolution. A Volga German Bolshevik newspaper named Vorwärts was re-baptized Nachrichten as the Soviet leadership wished to avoid associations with the German Social Democratic organ.[7]
Other publications named Forward (in different languages)

Avante!, of the Portuguese Communist Party
Avanti!, organ of the Italian Socialist Party
Eteenpäin, Finnish-language newspaper in the United States
Új Előre ('New Forward'), a Hungarian-language newspaper in the United States

References

^ a b Ismael, Tareq Y., and Jacqueline S. Ismael. The Communist Movement in Syria and Lebanon. Gainesville [u.a.]: University Press of Florida, 1998. p. 246
^ Microform review, Vol. 10. Microform Review, inc., 1981. p. 99
^ Bale, John, and Chris Philo. Body Cultures Essays on Sport, Space & Identity by Henning Eichberg. London: Routledge, 1997. p. 159
^ a b Philologos, Forward at 110. Forverts!
^ Steenson, Gary P. "Not One Man! Not One Penny!": German Social Democracy, 1863-1914. Pittsburgh, Pa: University of Pittsburgh Press, 1981. p. 141
^ Cohen, Jocelyn. My Future Is in America: Autobiographies of Eastern European Jewish Immigrants. New York [u.a.]: New York Univ. Press, 2006. p. 105
^ Heitman, Sidney. Germans from Russia in Colorado. Fort Collins, Colo: Western Social Science Association, 1978. pp. 36, 43

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DO NOT MAKE UNILATERAL EDITS GOING FORWARD Creating an edit war is silly. Use Wikipedia's established editorial practices. One needs to build consensus hereforth among the community . If you are outraged and editing, or editing with your politics on, you're violating WP:NPOV. In other words, if you don't have a neutral point of view, don't make a unilateral edit.Sturmde (talk) 17:01, 2 May 2012 (UTC)
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Please discuss deletion here

Comments left anywhere else likely will not be seen by the reviewing administrator. Safiel (talk) 18:02, 2 May 2012 (UTC)
Various delete/keep comments

I believe that the Forward (Obama-Biden Campaign Slogan) entry should be maintained but guarded. There is some legitimate discussion ongoing in the media about the significance of its selection, which may be historic. Certain members of the Obama administration/team have a history of socialist party involvement, so I'd like to see it maintained. See: http://www.boortz.com/weblogs/nealz-nuze/2012/may/02/proggies-muck-wikipedia/

Best, CStack3CStack3 (talk) 18:15, 2 May 2012 (UTC)

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First, the talk page is for discussing what should be done with the page. It is not an outlet for a personal monologue.

Second, please use proper spelling.

Third, each topic should be placed in an individual section. This can be done simply by clicking the “new section” tab at the top of your screen.

Finally, you should sign your posts with four tildes - because this is the worst designed website for collaboration in the history of the internet and like...four tildes man, makes a ton of sense.


Stanislao Avogadro (talk) 02:17, 2 May 2012 (UTC)


OK, Stanislao (really? Stanislao? Isn't this English Wikipedia?) here is the "discussion" about what should be done with this page: LEAVE IT!

This entry should stay. While it may be inconvenient to leftists and American Democrats, it documents a historical fact: the phrase "Forward!", which Obama is using in his re-election has a long and distinguished history in the social movement. Deleting this entry instead of cleaning it up, just shows that people (and Wikipedia) don't want to deal with "inconvenient truths" that hurt their cause. Please Leave it. Uneven Steven (talk) 16:25, 2 May 2012 (UTC)Uneven Steven

Regardless of your political persuasion and whether the linkage of Obama's campaign to Socialism is inconvenient to you, the following facts are undisputable:

1) Obama selected "FORWARD" as his campaign slogan

2) "FORWARD" has been historically used by Socialist and Communist publications on numerous occasions — Preceding unsigned comment added by 167.176.16.8 (talk) 15:11, 2 May 2012 (UTC)


Well well well...go figure. And I thought Wikipedia was apolitical...I guess not! I am sorely dissapointed but can't say that I am surprised. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Whatsupdaddio (talk • contribs) 15:56, 2 May 2012 (UTC)

Oh no, no, no... Wikipedia is NOT apolitical. They lean LEFT. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.37.249.172 (talk) 16:30, 2 May 2012 (UTC)

Obama continuing to use "Forward" means it should stay. Him dropping its use means it should stay and then just add the fact that he quit using it. After all, that would be the truth. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.138.62.36 (talk) 16:11, 2 May 2012 (UTC)

Keep It can't be denied that it's relevant, and factual, and significant.130.111.163.179 (talk) 16:47, 2 May 2012 (UTC)

*cough* Ahem...WP:NPOV exists... 71.175.53.239 (talk) 16:49, 2 May 2012 (UTC)

LEAVE IT! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 165.160.2.42 (talk) 16:49, 2 May 2012 (UTC)

MOVE After reading the article and the talk page comments, it seems pretty clear that there is nothing noteworthy about 'Forward' as a campaign slogan, yet. As of this writing the previous campaign slogan 'Hope' does not have its own dedicated wikipedia page. This may be better served as an addition to Barack Obama as this slogan is not discussed in the section labeled '2012 presidential campaign'. Notably, 'Hope' is discussed in that pages '2008 presidential campaign' section. It's my opinion that this page should be deleted and integrated as a side note on appropriate pages.MichaelJPierce (talk) 17:41, 2 May 2012 (UTC)

Remove this page. Other campaign slogans ("Change", "I like Ike") are contained in the candidate's biography or pages about relevant campaigns, and don't have their own pages. There is no reason for this slogan to receive a different treatment. Jpurdes (talk) 17:44, 2 May 2012 (UTC)


Keep the page, except that "Forward" has been used by both left and right. The Hitler Youth marching song was translated as, "Forward, Forward" I think Obama's people my reconsider , and use a different slogan, because this one carries so much baggage. But, it is a decision Obama's campaign made, and it is part of the 2012 election, and "Forward" does have a historical reference. That should not be denied, and the article should be kept. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bigedlb (talk • contribs) 17:51, 2 May 2012 (UTC)

Have you looked at Forward the disambiguation page for the word? You can see that there are many other pages that use forward in different ways, but those pages are usually for when the word Forward is the proper name for a position, book, or political party. Not just a slogan. You may be right to suggest a Forward (Slogan) page. However, this article is built specifically with (Obama-Biden Camaiphn Slogan) built into it. It is overly specific to keep as a generic landing point for general knowledge of the use of the word. Plus, citation would be needed for your claims. MichaelJPierce (talk) 18:03, 2 May 2012 (UTC)

Keep caesarscott (talk) 17:56, 2 May 2012 (UTC)

KEEP Other political and presidential slogans DO have pages of their own. Witness: It's the economy, stupid, Stay the course, Read my lips: No new taxes, Morning in America and even Tippecanoe And Tyler Too, not to mention a host of other American and foreign political slogans. The important part is: does the slogan rise to a measure of being of interest in and of itself, because of its impact or its controversial nature? In this case, it does - there is sufficient press coverage and controversy. If nothing else, just witness this discussion as a measure of the controversial nature of the slogan. It should be retained and the controversy should be fairly followed and documented as a political historical fact. Puff4 (talk) 18:01, 2 May 2012 (UTC)

Some of those pages don't exists and the ones that do are culturally significant outside of being a simple slogan for a campaign. For example, Read my lips: No new taxes has been made significant outside of the campaign trail, as it represented a major backtracking to George Bushes campaign promise. Its arguable that the slogan caused the downfall of his reelection hopes. Awards were won in association with Morning in America, making it more significant than a simple campaign slogan. Please check your resources before posting broken links.MichaelJPierce (talk) 18:09, 2 May 2012 (UTC)
After reviewing your fixed links, all of the slogans and phrases you cite all have significance outside the campaign trail and permeated popular culture in some way. The current page is in no way noteworthy according to Wikipedia policy. In fact, it could be seen as an attempt to use Wikipedia as a campaign tool to spread the slogan. In all the addition of this page is ironically, backwards.MichaelJPierce (talk) 18:18, 2 May 2012 (UTC)

(MOVE) After thinking about this for a while, I think it should be moved under the 2012 campaign section for Obama/Biden. Create a new section under "Barack Obama presidential campaign, 2012" for Campaign Slogan(s) and then reference "Forward" there. Under the "Barack Obama presidential campaign, 2008" Wiki entry, this is how it was handled.[1] In that section, you can cite how Forward is used by socialist movements and whatnot. 166.20.224.11 (talk) 18:40, 2 May 2012 (UTC) U.S Common Sense[2]

This appears to be the most appropriate action.MichaelJPierce (talk) 18:57, 2 May 2012 (UTC)

Move I concur with Michael J. Pierce's opinion on it. --WilliamC24 (talk) 19:08, 2 May 2012 (UTC)


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